Raw Cut | Rudi Krausmann | Travel Diary 3/9
After walking once more through the township and looking
in vain for Hans I decided to arrange an interview with the actor
myself. The owner of the Pension gave me precise instructions
where the house of the star was situated. It turned out to be very
close. Brandauer lived just around the corner so to speak, a few
hundred metres off the centre of the village. It was a stately
middle sized villa, impressive but not ostentatious, with a view
of the lake in the distance. I rang the bell and a middle-aged
lady opened the door.
"What can I do for you?" she asked in a friendly manner.
"Can I speak to Klaus-Maria Brandauer?"
"What for?"
"For an interview for an Australian journal."
"Wait a minute."
When she returned she told me that Herr Brandauer would be
ready in half an hour, as he was at present engaged in discussions
for his next film. I thanked her and told her that I will be back.
Walking around in the snow, I wondered what I was going to ask
him. I knew really very little about the actor, except that he had
played the leading part in Everyman, a morality play which
was staged every year during the Salzburg festival in front of the
cathedral. The play was a new version by Hugo von Hoffmansthal of
the mediaeval play and produced the first time by Max Reinhardt.
The artistic concept of this production was still in use today as
Reinhardt was a founding member of the Salzburger Festspiele. In
Sydney I had seen three motion pictures, Mephisto, Colonel Redl
and Hanussen, in which Brandauer also had played the leading part.
In all three films Brandauer, under a Hungarian director, had
acted superbly, I thought. The characters Brandauer played were
all extraordinary individuals, a famous actor-director in
Mephisto, a colonel during the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy who had
become a traitor, in Colonel Redl and a clairvoyant who had come
under disfavour under the Nazis, in Hanussen.
The heroes, or anti heroes in these films were woven well into the
historical background and gave acute visual details of the period
combined with intelligent dialogue and excellent timing. A fourth
film, Georg Essler, subtitled Ein anderer Deutscher (A
different German) in which Brandauer not only had the leading part
but had also directed the film, I had recently seen in
Salzburg.
It showed the unsuccessful attempt of a carpenter who tried to
assassinate Hitler and was caught by the Gestapo. Brandauer as a
director had used the same technique as the director who had
directed him, in other words he did not break new ground and his
acting was perhaps not as assured as in the other films. It seemed
that he could act better an extraordinary opportunist like
Hanussen than an ordinary idealist like Georg Essler, the
carpenter.
Apart from that, Brandauer had also played supporting roles in
films like Out of Africa with Meryl Streep and Russia House with
Sean Connery under the direction of Schepski.
Images of these films I had seen flashed through my mind as I
stared at a nude apple tree in the snow. What was I going to ask
him? Brandauer was no doubt once obsessed with themes which
related to the times the Nazis were in power as he himself had
grown up in a village which was still 'a nest of Nazis'. I really
did not know what to ask him but put some questions in my notebook
nevertheless.
When I had returned to Brandauer's house, I was stopped by two men
in winter overalls who seemed to be watching the entrance to the
villa. Both of them were equipped with talk back transistors.
"What do you want?" one of them shouted.
"I came here to make an interview."
"With whom, with me?" he laughed.
"Not with you," I replied.
"Why not with me, don't you think I have anything to say?" The
other man was talking to someone in the house.
"Let him pass," he said to his companion. The man who had laughed
first now grinned at me.
The same middle-aged lady to whom I had talked before opened the
door and led me into a living room which was sparsely furnished.
The main object was a huge tiled stove in green and white and an
empty Christmas tree. She asked me to sit down near the stove.
"Klaus won't be long," she said in the same friendly manner as
before.
"Can I get you something?"
"It's not necessary."
"Why don't you try our local Schnapps? An Enzian."
"All right."
She left and returned quickly with a tray and a bottle of
Schnapps, the same I had bought in a shop when I had left
Altaussee. After she had poured me a glass she started to
talk.
"Poor Klaus, the New Year has just started and he is already
working so hard.
There are some people here from Los Angeles, they have been
discussing a film project the whole morning. I am sorry it is
taking much longer than expected. Everyone wants something from
Klaus."
"Of course," I said guiltily.
"When Klaus was still a child, he was so happy swimming in the
lake in summer and skiing in winter. Now he has hardly time for
that. For these Americans time is always money, but not pleasure.
Deep down Klaus much prefers the local people than these important
people coming from all over the world. I wish he never had become
so successful."
"Are you working for him?" I asked.
"For god's sake, no. I am a relative from the other side of the
mountain, I only help him out sometimes when things get out of
hand. Klaus' wife is also very busy making documentary films, even
his son "
At this moment the star entered the room. He was dressed casually
yet elegantly in dark brown jeans and a light brown silk shirt but
appeared to me smaller and somehow less impressive than on the
screen. Yet all that changed in his favour when he started to
talk. We shook hands briefly and sat opposite each other. I
apologised for taking the interview down by hand but explained
that my recorder had been stolen recently.
"You don't have, by chance, a recording machine in the house? I
have got a cassette with me," I said. He looked up in
surprise.
"No, there is nothing of technical devices in this house, as I
come here for recreation but am already invaded in my most private
sphere from all sides." Klaus replied coldly. I felt he already
regretted giving this interview.
"May I start?"
"Go ahead."
"In the library of the literary museum in Altaussee I was browsing
through the memoirs of a well-known Viennese literary critic by
the name of Friedrich Torberg. He had written: If one loves life,
one becomes a poet, if one loves the theatre one becomes a critic
but he forgot to mention what does one love to become an
actor?"
"The same, life." The star replied quickly.
"Do you love the metamorphosis?"
"I am not a quick change artist. I love life and in Altaussee I
try to live the pleasant side of it. Here I like to read and
write. In particular I enjoy the independence I have here and
sometimes it helps to create figures in my mind. And when I, later
on, act or interpret characters on stage or in films I can only
interpret what I have experienced plus my imagination. Utopia or
vision is part of it. My profession as such is not the most
important part in my life, it is rather a by-product."
"Altaussee has attracted many artists in the past. Some of them
came here regularly, like Hugo von Hoffmansthal, others lived here
like Jakob Wassermann, others made brief visits like Hermann
Broch. The village has a literary museum consisting only of these
recollections. Quite a few streets here bear the names of famous
people. Along the lake there is a Johannes Brahms Weg and
not far from it the Klaus Maria Brandauer Promenade.
Having grown up here, how did and does that affect you?"
"What can I say to the achievements and fame of others," Brandauer
replied smiling. "My countryman Mozart, for instance, died with 36
years of age but left a music which is universal. I am already 45
years but I doubt that I will ever be able to catch up with him.
There are other examples like Georg Büchner etc. Here in
Austria one can hardly become complacent. Yet the influence and
the presence of Altaussee is still first class. How the famous
affected me is hard to tell. The ones I met I encountered mostly
by chance. I admit that I was interested in them or even
fascinated by them. Most of them only passed through, having their
domicile in London, Paris, Tel Avif etc. For the local population
I am Klaus and hope to remain so."
"As you work at present as actor or director for film or the
theatre. Which of these activities do you prefer and in which
area?"
"They are all variations of the same activity, a chance to express
oneself in a playful mode in the realm of literature or
entertainment."
"In the last few years you have acted the leading part in
Hoffmansthal's play Everyman during the Salzburg Festival.
I wonder if this morality play is still effective in our modern
world?"
"As the Salzburg Festival has been started with this play in a
production by Max Reinhardt its function is more traditional than
contemporary. But any play is as good or bad, depending what the
director or actors are doing with it. It is not our job to compare
Hoffmansthal with Shakespeare."
"In the four films which I saw and in which you played the lead
(Mephisto, Colonel Redl, Hanussen, Georg Essler) the hero or anti
hero had become a victim of politics. In three out of four of
these films, a victim of German fascism.
In our present political climate, as communism is also in decline,
the artist now and in future will be confronted with capitalism
and its negative component, commercialism. What are the dangers,
in particular for a director or actor, under this system?"
"Today like in any other period, the important people, or the ones
in power, make the decisions. As the values of the past are more
or less no longer in existence, as there is no more common
denominator of values in our society, success is all that matters.
But sometimes -- and that is what I am interested in -- even
quality can be successful. An audience, once it has become a mass
audience, can no longer formulate or set a standard. The danger,
of course, is that quality plays or serious literature is no
longer understood. I notice this even when I go out in the
village. Today the locals are much less imaginative and less eager
to communicate than in the past."
"How do you react to the medium of television?"
"In itself there is nothing wrong with television or videos. The
question again is who is in control of it, who is making it. I
think it has more political than artistic potential. In order to
utilise it positively one has to be selective. Unfortunately
television has too much surface information, does not investigate
enough behind the scene, so to speak. And one has to be aware of
the 'seemingly' intellectual, the 'seemingly' informed ones,
journalists for instance, who are not concerned with anything
really, except their interests.
For me general themes do not make much sense, I only want to deal
with issues directly or concretely. The truth lies in mastering
the detail. In other words, freedom has to be expressed in
concrete terms."
"Which ideology or political system do you favour?"
"It is of course desirable to have a democracy all over the world.
But we must not be naive. Also under a democracy we have hate,
envy, greed, inequalities etc. It contains as many dangers as any
other system, and it certainly can be misused. Today we know that
there is hardly any difference between fascism and communism. The
main task is to maintain the dignity of mankind, anything which
endangers it has to be fought against, in particular racism. Just
imagine how much injustice is committed daily under the label of
progress and democracy, yet until we find a better system we have
to support it."
"I have heard that you are interested in poetry and managed to
bring the Russian poet Jevtushenko to Altaussee. How did this come
about?"
"Jevtushenko is a friend of mine and I am pleased that he gave a
reading here. But I am also interested in other Russian poets and
writers. In Russia poetry is still read by a large portion of the
population, which is hardly the case in Austria. As you may know,
Jevtushenko was also very active politically and somehow prepared
'glasnost' from the underground."
"As I see you sitting in your house, which is shadowed by the
Loser mountain, and a view to the lake, frozen at the moment, one
can hardly think of a more idyllic situation to be in. Yet it is
possible that, if you permit me the play of words, you too could
have 'frozen' like the lake, if you would be here all the
time?"
Klaus Maria Brandauer jumped up angrily and said: "What do you
mean by that? In this village there are at least a thousand people
with a stronger character than I have. I think by talking to you I
am wasting my time!"
"Last question. What do you think of Australia?"
"Nothing, so far, as I have not been there. But I hope to visit
this continent some day. Is it really called by the indigenous
population the Never Never Country ?"
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